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plan. >> excellence. >> well executed. >> i thank you. >> a lot of criticism of fema back in katrina. today we hear nothing but good about fema. >> i thank craig would lives and breathes this stuff. >>neil: not so fast because all in rescueville is not so great. a lot of the folks they represent would like to kick them in the ass. this is the reality. welcome, everyone, not so happy friday. mr. president, you may want to wait on the "heck of a job" thing because rescue efforts have become heck of a joke for folks in the northeast fuming. because the help isn't coming. in gas. no power. no food. they have had it. >> restaurants and boats and homes are looted. >> the coast guard has not been here to help. >> come here and walk into the streets here. the water is this high. you have to wear the waders. >>neil: that is just on staten island. homes are swamps. motorists are stuck if -- in gas lines, four hours or more if you can find a place to fill in. two-thirds of gas stations even now in new york and new jersey remain shut down. out of juice. out of gas. thousands are fuming, out of p

there is no drinking water. >> neil: you and i sxi can remember with katrina, big difference in variety of levels. it was the same immediate response that things were under control. the famous heck of a job brownie comment that prompted the initial view, things are under control and not so bad. then we started getting the images, we started seeing more and more. it was not under control. we're seeing the initial response on the part of president and governor christie and mayor bloomberg and governor of new jersey is still speaking to reporters in hoboken. residents who are affected in these areas, you are talking a good game but it ain't happening to me. that is when it turns the tide. what do you see happening now if this lingers much longer? >> reporter: first of all, thank you for covering this story. i have been watching other stations, they are not covering this station. a lot of americans saw the instant response, this was a storm that was dealt with and very professional and competent manner and fema and state. now, we are finding out thanks in large part that is not the case. i think a lo

. a housing cyclone that hollowed out more homes that hurricane katrina and sandy combined. the very definition of disaster needs broadening. we need to recapture the initial horror created by those single natural disaster and put it toward the relief of our on going national disasters. the energy gathered by gale force winds has the power to focus our public attention. superstorm sandy may help the electorate focus in the few days that remain in the 2012 presidential campaign. our vote on tuesday will be for a disaster manager and chief taking charge of a country in an economic state of emergency, building a society that leaves all of us more prepared for disaster. at my table is ari melber, msnbc contributor. norry tan dan, kate dawson and david rodi, a reuters columnist and contributor for the atlantic. thank you all for being here. >> i want to start with you. the article, the piece you wrote was about the inequalities that have been revealed in the con te context of sandy. >> i am one of the privileged new yorkers. there has always been divisions in the city but this storm broug

overseas and with hurricane katrina down in new orleans, and they say it does not look much different. walking around and having it be dead silent and hearing the hissing of natural gas coming out of the ground, we are still as of yesterday in search and rescue mode to be sure everyone is out of their house and safe before they allow people to come back. it is a very frustrating time. i can tell you what he was talking about on the earlier call, i had the opportunity last night to talk to some people in the shelters and they are amazed at the amount of people willing to help, total strangers. random citizens donating goods to try to help their fellow man. it is unfortunate it takes a tragic event like this to bring the best out of people. host: what is the best way the federal government can help your district? guest: first of all, the president has been doing everything he needed to do along with the governor in giving the governor of the tools that we need here in new jersey to get this process started. it is going to be a multi-year process to get us headed back in the right direct

repetitive. it dulls the ears. here he doesn't have to mention bush. it's in everyone's head. katrina is recalled with the im. talk about fema, people think about the bush legacy. and so, he doesn't have make those contrastic splits, never mind about mitt romney, that helps him because he's doing stuff and it's all out there without the effort. >> you get the unearned assist from michael brown coming out. >> we'll talk about brownie. >> you couldn't ask for that. you couldn't make that bet. >> but there's karen welcome. hi. >> welcome to the show. i want to say, it's not just the presidential thing. it's also -- there's incredibly moving -- let's not forget the human toll this storm's taken. >> absolutely. >> the images of the president consoling americans in the wake of this massive disaster are incredibly powerful images. and what you heard in the president, what you heard from the president on the stump just now was empathy, this sense that he is fighting for you, that you have a seat at the table, middle class, working class americans, that he is there for you. and that fundamenta

and disasters i'm absolutely confronted by these two americas, the katrina/fema reaction and the sandy/fema reaction and the reality is to argue there hasn't been a significant political response to the significance of fema by different governments and it's not split down party lines. it's simply not true. there was a really great article in "mother jones" that took you through -- >> the development of fema competence. >> right. and who had headed fema and the way that presidents had appointed those fema heads were directly related to how they perceived their significance. so, for example, george bush actually allocated michael brown who was the former -- i just had to read this out, because i was just blown away. michael brown who was the former commissioner of judges and stewards for the international arabian horse association, that's who headed fema. clinton was the first -- was the first president to allocate the fema head who actually had experience -- >> disaster. >> -- disaster management. it's not political. it's about poverty. it's about race. and when we think about disaster

up in flames and four other houses. >> we think back about katrina and what a big impact that was on our country, we rarely think about the wind and the rain that was the initial storm, we think of the aftermath. right now we're in the aftermath period in terms of sandy. tell me how you feel about that. and before we get to rebuilding, people taking care of continuing damage right now, how do you assess the coordination between the state, federal, and local municipalities? >> i think we're doing very well. i think the president's response has been terrific, really. it's been coordinated unlike some of what happened in katrina. and you heard governor christie, who is a republican with president obama working together, and that's how it's been from the president, to the governor, to the counties and the towns. one of the things that i did today was talk to fema about trying to get an office and staff person in various parts of the district today, and they're working on it, and with the money that comes to downs for recovery to rebuild board walks or municipal buildings, i t

franklin. after katrina, you were a native of new orleans, you were appointed the vice chairman of the louisiana recovery authority and the job was to handle funds that were being disbursed by the federal government. in watching the rebuilding of new orleans and this whole process, what do you think that you learned that applies to what's going on now in new york and new jersey? >> three things. first of all, leadership matters. if you look at what's happening in new york and new jersey now organization view great leaders, michael bloomberg, deputy mayor bob steele, governor cuomo, governor chris christie. the president, obama, has been very involved. when we went through katrina, we were all back down in new orleans, it wasn't that strong of leadership. ray nagin was the mayor, sometimes not to be found. so i saw the importance of people who take charge and say i'm going to run into this crisis and i'm going to help solve it. secondly, it reminded us that we're all in the same boat together. this election is somewhat about the age-old tension between, all right, we're all indiv

a comparison with hurricane katrina. i want to use it as an analogy. but the analogy here that might be helpful, we think back to katrina and what that meant to us as a nation. we very rarely think about the wind and the rain that was the initial storm. right now we are in the aftermath period of this superstorm, sandy. how do you feel in terms of dealing with the aftermath, describing those explosions, these ongoing worries. before we get to rebuilding, rescuing people, taking care of continuing damage right now. how would you assess the response and the coordination between the federal government, the state government, municipalities. how are we doing? >> i think we're doing very well. i mean, you heard the president, and i have to say that i think his response has been terrific, really. and it's been coordinated, unlike some of what happened in katrina. and you heard, you know, governor christie, who's a republican, with president obama, working together. and that's how it's been, from the president to the governor, all the way down to the county and the towns. so one of the things that i di

't know what he shot about. he hot his mouth about katrina and we have seen record low levels. andrew cuomo linked climate change to sandy yesterday. >> steve: a county plans to move forward with a gun tax. under the plan will be a $25 tax on the fire arms and a plan to tax bullets. but the board dropped that because it would be more than the costs of ammunition. >> giant tiger shark. maria, a black belt was swimming in maui. and the shark confronted her and she gave it a best punch in the nose. she got more than a hundred stitchos her hand and thigh. >> steve: that's what you are supposed to do. >> gretchen: a woman was told her bible shirt was offensive. they made her cover tup with a jacket. they say it violates election laws and the attorney said he wants an apology or there will be a lawsuit. >> steve: is the on the ballot there? >> that shirt is permissible. keep the shirt on. >> steve: 20 minutes before the top of the hour. navy seals outraged over what happened in benghazi posted this on facebook. but facebook took it down. doesn't that vialate people's use of free speech. the

all of this living through this for a second time is proof of how katrina changed the nation's psychology when it comes to storms. >> yes. >> how many lessons have been learned, dark days along the gulf coast in '05. see it playing out. closest thing to katrina since '05. you are seeing the country changed after the storm, even response on every level has changed as well. interesting to watch, yet again for sure. >> yeah. >> coming up next, images are almost too much for adults to comprehend. for children, the pictures from sandy could be downright heartbreaking and confusing. >> we'll show you what one familiar fuzzy face is doing to help them understand. ♪ we have all been assaulted by the sights and sound of hurricane sandy. they can be hard for an adult but overwhelming for a child. >> imagine what it is like for kids. gma anchor josh elliott has this story. >> reporter: we adults called it a super storm. amidst the ferocity of nature's wrath, it was just plain scary. how do you talk to kids about getting through the storm of the century. we got together with a panel of

. some people calling it their katrina in a very unhappy way, of course, in part because it's cold. it's a cold katrina. and people are without heat and electricity. seats very tough. how does it play politically? we'll know in retrospect, i think like everything else, in this race. it is not known at this point how it will play. you can argue that the president looked commanding and like a leader when he came up to new jersey. you could also argue that things are starting to look a little tough in some of the neighborhood neighborhoods in new york and jersey, and so that might work against him. it's hard to say, but one thing i think is probably clearly true and that is the fact of the storm took the subject matter of mitt romney's closing statements, the end of his campaign, his big arguments sort of snuffed that out a little bit for a few days. inevitably, as we all talked about the storm. we weren't talking about the economy. we weren't doing all of that stuff. so in some way, that may have hurt him. and yet, at the same time, that all that was happening, in westchester, ohio, he w

at home, new york governor andrew cuomo calls superstorm sandy more impactful than hurricane katrina. now both new york and new jersey are asking for a combined total of more than $71 billion in federal aid. in new york, the money would pay not only for cleanup and recovery, it would also be used to try and limit damage for future storms. new jersey which saw heavy damage to its transit system and shoreline suffered nearly $30 billion in losses. >>> meanwhile, new jersey governor christie has now filed papers seeking re-election. >>> and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins. he's tracking that weather channel forecast. good morning to you, bill. >> sensitive topic when you start comparing storms to katrina and all these. >> it does. >> it's like any big event. >> absolutely. >> yeah, over 1,000 people died and monetarily there's issued. every storm is different as we learned with sandy and all the other big hurricanes that have hit this country. we're not dealing with anything too bad today. if you have travel plans on the east coast, pay at

their lives. >> you remember this back with katrina, the same thing happened where a lot of residents in new orleans had seen a lot of hurricanes before. and they heard this is going to be the storm of century, and nothing ever happened to their houses, and they ignored evacuation orders. you can't -- there's only so much preparation you can do. you can never create a risk-free society. you can't prepare for everything. you know, but one of the things that has to happen in these situations for things to work right is for the government has a part to play, but individuals have a part to play, too. you've got to be working together so when people -- some of these people, obviously, their pain is genuine and totally understandable. but some of these people did, you know, were told to leave and didn't leave. and you understand why they didn't. it makes sense in human terms, but, you know, there is a responsibility that you have for yourself in addition to what the government obviously has for you. and again, if both sides are woaren't working together, that's when things fall apart. >> the perso

of the group's system of levies that were installed in new orleans in the gulf coast after katrina. >> people asked about located -- katrina and the rebuilding. not smart to build on an ocean. will the flood-prone areas be redefined, and will reveal did occur outside areas? -- will the rebuilding occur outside those areas? guest: this will be a tricky question going forward. along the jersey shore, and iconic part of their coast, a huge industry for them. they are saying it needs to be rebuilt. there are other places in new york city, mayor michael bloomberg is saying that we need to reevaluate places to rebuild and make sure we move around a little bit. especially with the storm coming at a time when state and local governments are so strapped for money. that is something that is being talked about, and i think there are certain places where you can see development has increased in recent years that may have made flooding worse. this is something you hear anecdotally of the ground. talk to people on staten island where there was very bad flooding. they say 40 years ago the neighborhood ports

a montage of people in the east coast. whole story has shifted into what i am calling obama's katrina. watch this. >> we keep convincing people. >> we -- what is going on here [bleep]. >> the old lady has nothing. >> what are we going to get. [bleep]. >> and i mean, seriously, people out here are very frustrated by what's going on. >> it's just chaos. it's pandemonium out here. >> everybody is hotheaded, everybody is upset. >> we can't live like this. it's too hard. we cannot live like this! people who have not even left their apartment because they scared. we can't live like rats. this is disgusting. >> we need to -- please, president obama, please listen to us down here! we are going to die! you don't understand. you've got to get your trucks here on this corner now! >> we need help. fema takes so long. three to five days, we have no place to go. >> my kids are in the shelter with me. >> this story has flipped. gas lines minimum four hours all across new york, new jersey and long island. the president comes in, photo op and leaves. >> the minute he got the photo op he went back to being ca

-known liberal bias. first katrina tainted george bush's presidency. then isaac wiped out the first day of the republican national convention. now hurricane sandy. sandy, what kind of name is that? are you a dude storm or a lady storm? oh, big surprise, just when obama needs a boost, who shows up but a gender-ambiguous weather system, a category 5 by cure cane. (laughter) hey, hey, don't get me wrong, i don't mine you being a hemispheric scale meteorological event, but why must you be so flamboyant and in my face about it? (cheers and applause) no, i'm hurricane sandy, deal with me! now, make no mistake, folks, the hurricane agenda is to make the federal government look necessary! (laughter) well, mitt romney understands that disaster relief belongs only on the state level. as he explained when asked about his plans for fema during a primary debate. >> every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. and if you go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. >> stephen: r

katrina are inspiring one high school to come to the aid of hurricane sandy victims. help is on the way, and that's the message sent by errol heights students and faculty. the group is on a mission to send this semi-trailer stocked withed food, blankets and other helpful items. well, i'm lynn berry. this is "early today," just your first stop of the day today on your nbc station. >>> well, a dangerous fire forced officials to evacuate an entire town. close to 1,000 people received orders to abandon their homes. a chemical fire erupted from this derailed train car and then began leaking dangerous fumes. the evacuation order is still in effect until that fire burns out. >>> all right. new images show one animal's odd connection to halloween. a massachusetts fisherman caught this female lobster last week. look there. see? scientists say the crustacean, she is half orange, she's half black. the crustacean's split coloring happens every 50 to 100 million lobsters. that orange and black is the most common color combination. interesting. >>> well, class was in session when a drunken intruder b

and then paid the price after katrina, and this president put it back up again and what not political people in, and it is paying off this week, it really is paying off. >> colby? >> it also draws a sharp contrast between the two candidates. here you have president obama citing fema as the vehicle to coordinate the federal effort, and you had mitt romney last year on the campaign saying he would get rid of fema, he would turn the responsibilities back to the states, showing no appreciation for the role that fema place. >> this is a nightmare for political candidate romney. >> it is, especially if you are going after swing votes, woman voters in ohio, the so-called waitress a vote. they want a president who will care for them and be a guardian. this is an ad for a president who worries about you. it is terrible for romney. it stopped his momentum. maybe the polls or all wrong and romney is going to win anyway, but if you looking at the polls right now, obama has got it. >> did ghani have momentum, was that republican --romney of momentum, or was that republican spin? >> he definitely add momentu

and paid a price after katrina, and this president built it back up again, put a professional in charge, but people who knew what to do, and it is paying off. >> colby? >> it also draws a sharp contrast between the candidates. you have president obama pushing the federal efforts and citing fema as his vehicle, and you had romney last year saying he would get rid of fema, saying that he would turn it back to the states and showing no appreciation of the role that fema plays i tragedy. >> this is a nightmare for romneycare he is in tough spot. -- a nightmare for romney. is in a tough spot. >> you are going for a woman voters, swing voters in ohio, the so-called waitress vote, this is an ad for a president who cares about you. it is terrible for romney. maybe the polls are wrong, but if you're looking at the polls right now, obama has got it. >> did romney have momentum or was that just republican spin? >> he did have momentum after the first debate -- >> we have had a three since then -- >> what obama was never able to recapture the lead. >> i cannot say with certainty that there was mome

everything that everybody else did getting ready for it. i was -- i sat through katrina when katrina happened. so i have kind been through a little bit of this before. but this is -- what happened here the skop scope of it. i don't think we know the scope. >> the magnitude is greater than anyone has grasped yet. >> this is where we need our news media to come in. if i may we need fewer reporters standing in waist-high water seeing they are going to be blown over and more real reporting, real news. what's going on. >> i have heard that criticism. i don't agree and i will tell you why. when i see someone standing in atlantic city in the middle of a boardwalk actually in water and i agree with him. anyone man enough that thinks they should be going out for a stroll, walking a dog and looks at that and saysly stay in. >> i was looking ate and watching ali being blown around in new york city. my first thought was why is cnn trying to kill ali velshi? what did he do here? >> ali -- >> for the 2008 crash coverage. >> it is a dramatic image that fully tells the story of how big this is and how danger

dollars from katrina! >> cenk: from katrina! bitter man. i love how bitter they are. my favorite was brit hume. he said: >> cenk: you know why? because sandy was hitting washington, d.c. at that moment. it's not like the government wasn't responding. president obama was all over the place. they were totally at work, they just sent home people like they did in new york and other places because they were in the middle of the storm. oh where's the government now? what a bunch of losers on fox news! all right now i had given the president some advice on how to attack mitt romney. if you remember, this was part of the ad we said he should run. >> it's not that mitt romney doesn't care about running, it's just that he isn't on your team. >> corporations aren't people, my friends. >> under bush, stock prices went up while job in connection and wages for us went down. mitt romney, what's the difference between you and george w. bush. >> if you raise taxes on the so-called rich, you're really raising taxes on the job creators. >> stop this war on job creators. >> they're the same republicans with

call that had to be made in new orleans after katrina with mardi gras. >> huge debate. the difference was -- the storm in august. mardi gras was in february. months between. now days between. >> i know. >> i don't know. i don't know. a tough call here. it is going to go on. the mayor said it is. those of you coming into the city to do it. run hard. run well. we'll be back with more after this. >> announcer: this is abc's "world news now." informing insomniacs for two decades. >>> this morning on "world news now," a presidential promise of help in the heart of the hurricane devastation. >> president obama and new jersey governor chris christie stood side by side as they toured the destruction and talks with the victims of sandy. it's thursday, november 1st. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now." >>> good thursday morning, i'm sunny hostin. paula faris is on assignment. >> always good to have you as the co-pilot here. >> so good to be here. >> there's power here and there's heat which is good. >> yes. both of which i do not have at home. >> soldiering through. welcome b

sense as well? >> katrina? yes. i know how those people in katrina feel. i really do. my heart went out to them. but until you go through something like this, you cannot understand the magnitude of this. my friends have come to help me. they said, michelle, we looked at your yard because we have all the stuff in the yard. they said, michelle, if we didn't see this with our own eyes, we would never believe it. >> and it's hard to know when power will be restored. mayor bloomberg said the ferry service will resume in the next day or so. he says full service by saturday, the ferry from staten island over to manhattan, new york. but who knows what's going to happen. >> i don't know. >> our heart goes out to you and your family. >> thank you so much. i'm a big fan of yours, wolf. it's a pleasure to speak with you. you know, i have to put it in perspective. we have our lives and i have my children. and, you know, it's just stuff like my kids say. but when i find my son's baby book, it rips at your heart strings. but i'm grateful that we're here. >> yeah. and i like your attitude. you got to t

hurricane katrina. they saw all of the dead bodies afterwards. >> steve: if this was a republican president do you think that the main stream media would handle it differently? the president's photop in new jersey is now in las vegas. >> eric: i love chris christy and he did victory laps with president obama and for fema, but where is fema? i am in favor of letting the states handle all of these things. but if you are going to do victory laps and say fema is the greatest institution in the last four or five years, they better be here. i haven't seen anything. not a thing. it is a disaster over there. >> gretchen: we have much to discuss this morning! in the meantime a fight for -- >> steve: fuel. >> gretchen: you know beha, we have so much to tuke about. >> steve: gas line in new jersey two miles line. >> gretchen: and the obama administration failing to call in back up as four americans attacked in libya. we'll continue to focus. did the white house leave them to die? former army chief-of-staff jack king is here to react. >> steve: media bias exist and proof is in the numbers and we have g

. but things have changed, haven't they? >> the whole story really is the cold katrina that is going on up there in parts of new york and part was new jersey as you just reported. i think this has gone way beyond a happy chappy political photoop event and has become something terbelieve for a lot of people. it is almost for a moment outside of the realm of politics as they suffer through. >> i was staggered to see a poll yesterday on the david gregory show said 65 percent of the country approved the president's handlingly the storm. have a talked to the people it is impossible for me to see how someone gets high grades because they put on a jeans jacket and walk through the rubble. >> it was early on in the days of the storm, it looked like government was in control and the president was there walking around new jersey. but very quickly, this turned into a story whose headline in time government didn't work so well, didn't it? they didn't get in the water or blankets and they ran out of the gas and as for the electrical situation, it is not a katrina where it is warm outside. people are co

have a capacity to hurt for example, katrina, than to help, or blame any candidates themselves. there are a number of people who have been blaming this on the global warming. this probably hurts obama a little bit in that it adds to the general feeling that things are amiss in america. the one swing state most affected by this storm, pennsylvania, and if there's one place you could see the effect of hurting the voter turnout, it would be virginia. >> stephanie: why. >> i have been waiting for him to go through puberty for 15 years. it is telling how off his analysis is just looking at the polls that have come out about the president's handling of this. 90% of the american people say he is doing a good job. in terms of climate change he named a few politicians -- >> stephanie: and obama didn't say i'm going to lower the level of the oceans as you recall. it is unbelievable. >> no al gore said the president should have said that and that's what the goal should be. any politician who uses that as a punch line should be punched in the nose. >> stephanie: exactl

the folks out. again takes me back to katrina days. if this plan goes through with the fema trailers, need for temporary housing, there was a big situation down in louisiana where they found out months after the storm that there was a formaldehyde contamination inside the fema trailers. make sure as they segue into temporary housing they take precautions, ask about what you are getting. and a lot of problems and some law suits in new orleans after katrina. >> you heard the folks, asked to evacuate, leave, maybe go to a shelter, dry, dry land. but they don't want to leave their homes because of looting. >> yeah, people want to protect their property. can't tell somebody they can't. to lighter moments from our storm coverage. we know about the bromance between governor chris christie and president obama. there is word that christie found closure with a target of his unrequited love. >> the one, the only -- bruce springsteen. christie said yesterday he got a hug from the rock star at a recent benefit concert and was moved to tears. christie, he is a huge fan of spring ste springsteen concerts

did getting ready for it. actually, i was -- i sat through katrina. so i kind of have been through a little bit of this before. but this what happened here, i don't think we know the scope oist. >> i think you are right. >> this is why we need the news media to come in. we need fewer of the reporters standing in waist high water and more real reporting real news. what is really going on. >> i have heard that. i don't agree with you. when i see somebody standing there in atlantic city in the middle of the boardwalk in water, the point of him doing that, i believe, and i agree with it, is there anyone mad enough to think that they should be growing out for a stroll walking the dog and looking at that and say it what is wrong with you? >> i was watching it. and my first thought is why is cnn trying to kill ally? what did he do here? >> because it is a dram mastic image at how big this is. >> it does and it doesn't. i mean, if it saves one life isn't it worth it? >> well, yeah, but there is a lot of things that you can do on cnn to save lives. but you can do that on another show. there

, thanks. >> memories of hurricane katrina are inspiring one high school to come to the aid of hurricane sandy's victims. students and faculty on a mission to send a semitrailer stocked with canned foods, blankets and other item to the atlantic coast. great for them. meanwhile, hurricane sandy has left behind a trail of sadness for the lives and property lost in its wake. nbc's brian williams spent part of his childhood growing up near the beaches of the jersey shore. so yesterday he went back to assess the damage. >> reporter: in point pleasant beach, the white sands motel has been in business for 30 years. the pool is full of sand. this is what is left of one of the motel rooms. another shore landmark is jenks where cindy clous rolled out the storm in the local aquarium she runs. >> we heard this huge woosh. and within seconds the water level went from the first step up to the door knob. >> reporter: the power is still out. they're keeping the animals safe and alive with one generator. of course, it's supposed to be a little scary in here. you have the halloween decorations up. >> that

katrina tainted george bush's presidency. then isaac wiped out the first day of the republican national convention. now hurricane sandy. sandy, what kind of name is that? are you induced or a lady storm? big surprise, just when obama needs a boost, who shows up in a gender ambiguous weather system? a category 5 bi-hurricane. don't get me wrong, i don't mind you being a meteorological event but why must be so flam poiboya and in my face about it? no, i'm hurricane sandy. deal with me. >> all right. did you see this video yesterday? a 4-year-old girl in ft. collins, colorado, if you think you're sick of the presidential election, look to her reaction after a ride to her grocery store with her mom during which she listened to an mpr report about the campaign. >> because i'm tired of both obama and mitt romney. >> that's why you're crying? oh, it will be over soon, abby. okay? the election will be over soon, okay? >> okay. >> she speaks for so many. by the way, npr offered an apology to the little girl and said "only a few more days. only a few more days." here's a picture of little abigail

health there. you and i have talked a lot about hospitals in the wake of katrina. why do people put the power in the basement? it seems to me the first thing that's going to go in a flood or any kind of, not even a major a storm, but a minor storm, is your basement's going to flood. >> this has been a bit of a technological whack-a-mole here, because we realized after katrina, and even after the blackout of 2003, we had to do something about backup generators in hospital. and so we moved the generators upstairs, but left the fuel pumps down in the basement. so we fixed the initial problem and have a secondary that no one seems to have thought about. >> okay, is that just complete stupidity, or is that, listen, it's financially expensive and people make the gamble, we're not going to invest the money and hope for the best. >> i think in this case, it was not paying attention to all of the details. i think people were well meaning. i don't think there was any sort of gross negligence here, except that somebody forgot an essential detail, in a situation that requires extraordinarily ex

for president bush was of him hugging someone after a natural disaster. you know, the images of katrina, biggest single thing beyond the war in iraq that undermined confidence in president bush's leadership. you cannot get those images out of your head as you watch this stuff. >> except, you know what, katty kay? there is a certain appeal that i think is coming as a relief to people who are tired, who are tired of the vitriol, of the stupidity. and a politician who can work with the other side, isn't that something that in this new age of politics that's appealing? >> it's huge. and i think it's probably almost the overriding priority of whoever gets elected next tuesday is to be able to make this country governable again. and to be able to do that by bringing about a certain amount of cooperation on the things america needs to do between republicans and democrats. we saw it yesterday between chris christie and brearack oba. and it's going to be very interesting to watch today as the campaign trail resumes, whether there's a different tone. i wouldn't be surprised -- we've heard the president us

by people who believe in its purpose and mission and it evoked the images of katrina which is the worst metaphor for mitt romney. and i think the president has surfed the wrong of this, and it's on the emotions of the public. >> yes, i don't think obama was trying to use it politically. i think he was trying to do thinks job. i think chris christie was trying to do his job. i also think that chris christie understands that he faces re-election in a pretty democratic state, and obama understands that he faces re-election next week. those are political realities. they're politicians, and they don't deny that. but they were doing their jobs, and i think christie's role here, as i'm sure you know as a former governor, it was a big deal for christie to come out and do what he did. that also really hurt romney. >> eliot: yes, that was the political maneuver of the week. he played it perfectly. switch gears for a moment. i don't want to say that anything is over and done, but the president is comfortable. the united states senate, a pivot or blocking position for the past couple of years. any

city. however if you go back seven years to hurricane katrina the news then about that storm was how president bush and fema and michael brown and everybody failed. you never heard about mayor nagan and governor belong could he. now the situation is reversed and it's bloomberg taking the blame for the storm and not doing better for it as opposed to president obama. if this were bush right now you'd be seeing a split screen of bush campaigning, and then people being miserable in their wrecked houses back home in queens. jon: what about that? we heard from david lee miller earlier today, a hispanic woman getting up there in years complaining how absolutely miserable it is where she's live. why should that not be president obama's fault as it was president bush's fault? >> katrina was a much larger national issue than with all due respect to queens. jon: why? >> because katrina was -- the magnitude of katrina in terms of what it represented nationally was not specific to a neighborhood in new york. overall the reaction to sandy has been -- jon: so the president is not -- i mean he's the

wildest imagination see the destruction. i mean, this is our katrina. you know, unfortunately, those poor people went through this x number of years ago, ten years ago. now it's our turn. and you don't know where to begin, where to start. i got good friends and family. everybody has been coming down trying to help me out, trying to do whatever we can to move ahead and it's confusing. it's mind boggling. it's uncertainty. it's my life. the restaurant was my 30 years of adult life. my home. i lost everything. >> can i ask you, you've been frustrated with what the insurance will and will not cover. you said you had hurricane coverage, but that will not take care of your damage. >> in 30 years of business here, i've never had one drop of water. and we have had many, many, manies storms. irene last year which pelted us with 13 inches of water. i never had a problem with water. okay. this wasn't a flood issue per say. this was a tsunami issue. how do you prepare for something like that? >> gregg: if you want to help the recovery efforts, it's easy to donate not red c for example. you can go on-

, and sometimes to rebuild things. and that is in fact exactly what happens after storms. after hurricane katrina it was $113 billion of federal money that went down there to rebuild that area. there is a ratio that the government spends arch these disasters. it's 75% after the state and local governments have spent 25%. that's a disaster aid formula that has been around for a long time. there is another ratio where the federal government spends 90% and the state only spends 10%. how in the world are they going to rebuild that after the federal government. it all works together. it doesn't mean that you only need federal government and you don't neat local contractors or governors or mayors, of course not. that's a ridiculous and extreme comments that only republicans would make. speaking of ex-treatment comments, do you remember mitt romney said he didn't believe there should an federal fema? unbelievable. he was asked about that from reporters. let's get the response. >> what is your response about fema? >> cenk: he was asked 14 times that day and i never answered the question. that's pretty te

. but it's brutal. this is our version of katrina. i've been touring the south shore today in my district, and the devastation is enormous. what you're showing on your screen is typical of many areas on long island. right now the county executive is meeting with fema to set up plans as to how the recovery will take place. work is coming in from all over the country to work with lipa, to restore the power, but it's going to be a tough haul. i can say that everything that can be done is being done. over the next several days, you'll see more power being restored. this could go on for another ten days to two weeks. >> are there still people missing? there are a lot of people who chose to ride this storm out. a lot of people who weren't even in areas that were supposed to be at high risk and they're still there. >> yeah. for instance, long beach, which is an island 30,000, 40,000 people on the island. many of them stayed, and i was talking to several people today. and this is just anecdotal. friends of theirs who cannot find their wife or daughters or their sons, cousins, people in homes who

to colonel owen of the army corps of engineers who was in new orleans after hurricane katrina, and he said that new york city is a much more complex problem because these tunnels are so deep and they are so long. and the path tunnel may be even luckier, if you will, than the subway tunnels because the subway tunnels, the system that just had its 108th birthday on saturday, one day before hurricane sandy hit. some of the electrical equipment in the tunnel -- some are so old they don't know what is the affect of salt water eroding the tunnels. one thing that struck me is that governor cuomo was talking quite firmly yesterday and today about climate change and how climate change has made lower manhattan much more vulnerable to these storm surges and has made the subway system vulnerable, which is unfortunately something that what was predicted and predictable. >> well, it's also something -- i was talking to a climate change expert today. it is only going to get worse. we have seen the water rise a foot over the last 100 years but the next 100 years should be rising in an area of two three fe

katrina where it was failures on the part of the federal government's response. you don't have that negative aspect. you have chris christie, the most visible republican in the country. certainly according to the media one of the better liked ones. he's out there using his platform to vouch for the leadership of the democratic president. i think that makes a powerful statement to people. i think having bloomberg weigh in makes a pretty strong statement to people as well. and i think just -- it's tough to quantify this. i think it's impossible to quantify this. to me it creates this noise that's sort of in the air, in the media air, and sort of in the conversational air in this country. it creates noise that i think takes wavering voters who maybe were soft obama supporters or soft romney supporters, i could see it moving them, you know, a small share of people, but i could see it moving people toward obama making them more comfortable with the idea of re-electing him. if it's a 1% or something, small, but it's big in the context of this election. >> in the context of endorsemen

to do as a contrast to george bush doing what he did with hurricane katrina. do you remember how awful he was? obama and christie stood up and did what he was supposed to do as a leader. >> which is find a camera at the beach and talk a couple people. >> did you find yourself ever reaching out to the opposite party and complementing them for their work? >> every day. and it wasn't so much the opposite party. it was people opposite me. that sometimes presented a real problem. when i couldn't really convince them, i looked forward to seeing their eulogy. >> that's politics. >> that's willie for you. coming up, one last look at this morning's top stories. >> that includes the latest on the strike. the first one called in the company 77-year history. >> we'll be right back. ,,,, where others fail, droid powers through. introducing the new droid razr maxx hd by motorola. now more than ever droid does. thousand workers are on stre against the raley's supermat chain. this after contract >> welcome back. here's a look at this morning's top stories. >> some 7000 workers on strike against the su

and katrina. because obama is a democrat and bush was a republic. and the media aren't going to play it up. none the less, it stopped the sandy effect. and you can see it now in the nationals. if you look at the last four national polls, romney is now coming back. he is up. he is either tied or plus one. so i see and that's as of saturday saturday sunday today and tomorrow. i think romney comes back. he he doesn't come all the way back. is he not going to be plus five. but the fact that he is coming back has an effect. here is where it has an effect on the battleground states if they are all very close, all nine or ten of them. 1%, 1 or 2 either way, then it's a best of your knowledge of dominoes. then all of them will go one way. which is why it looks so bad for romney on saturday or friday. now that i think he is coming back somewhat nationally, you are getting an evening effect. i think they are going to split half and half. and there are paths easy ones for romney to win electorally if, as i predict, the rebound in the national poll is continuing, which i think it is. >> bill: is there

is looking like hurricane katrina in one key respect and that is the price tag. steve liesman joins us now with more. billions and billions more. >> yeah. becky, the cost of sandy keeps rise and while it has not risen to the price tag of katrina, as the rubble is removed and the costs are tallied, the two storms are looking similar in the tale of devastation they tell. aid will arrive on a city focused on cutting spending. federal emergency money is subject to automatic cuts if we get over the cliff. this is the latest data putting at $70 billion to $90 billion. yesterday governor cuomo came out with this number. we know that includes what mayor bloomberg said was 19 billion. add that to what governor christie said of 29 billion. >> 360 million? >> for connecticut. >> and yesterday a company that we've been following since the beginning practically doubled their estimates of insured losses. originally 7 to 15. now 16 to 22. what i cannot tell you folks is whether or not the insured losses are included in the new york and new jersey governor statements. it could be 70 billion. governor cuom

than triple what hurricane irene cost. but still far plea record costs of hurricane katrina several years ago. governor christy hie has pledgeo rebuild the shore but that would come at an even greater cost. and where he withstand, we have to tell you as we were driving in, there are actually school buses blocking the flooded roads. you can imagine with no school in session and very thin police availability given everything that's going on, all the emergency situations, they're use aing school buses to deter cars from going down dangerous roads.aing school buses to dete cars from going down dangerous roads.ing school buses to deters from going down dangerous roads. this boat was across the street and police have propped it up to get it out of the way so that emergency vehicles can keep going. of course that's the only way that you can get on the island here. back to you. >> have there been other people that you've seen out on the streets or is it pretty deserted aside from the emergency personnel? >> reporter: it's actually very deserted. and it's pretty eerie. i've seen all the pict

katrina which, you know, so many people blamed the response of fema and so forth on george w. bush. >> are well, it was kind of a benign neglect at that point in time. the president, as you may recall, flew over it initially. he had an idiot running the fema who's still popping off, mr. brown. i think fema is absolutely an agency on the ground here doing wonderful things. the end of the day the one entity of the federal government that works better than anybody else is the military, and sooner or later we're going to have to put a general in the charge as we did katrina, let them get all the stuff done. they have the equipment, the resources, the manpower, and we've got a big problem ahead. and three or four days from now this is going to continue to be a burden for a lot of people's lives, and you're going to need to respond. [inaudible conversations] >> fema, this fema under obama has been getting great marks all the way around, but they learned a lot from katrina, you know? jon: as the father of an army second lieutenant, i have to agree, the u.s. military does its work very wel

play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is for years, particularly under clinton, who really did a good job of reforming fema. we said, yeah, this is one of the things the federal government does well. and when states get into trouble like this, yes, they can do things for themselves and they do a lot of stuff for themselves. but they've got to have the fed. i think right now, he has no choice but to say, well, whatever i said before, i'm going to keep fema. >> e.j. dionne, are we going to be lacking on this campaign, if romney loses, saying, it was the 47% tsunami. that it really was that that set the table for a lot of other problems that he just couldn't overcome throughout this campaign? >> well, i think that the -- whatever momentum romney had from the first debate stopped. and my reading of the polls is the last week had already been going at least slightly in obama's direction. and at least on the first couple of days, from the reaction to what the president did, from the difficulties romney has, this appears to be helping obama

of the indelible images of government failure after katrina. that's what people are reminded of. that's when you had a president and a federal government that did not work, did not come to the aid of people. so you don't have to talk about the bush legacy. you don't have to draw the comparison because it's right there in people's heads. in the case of our dear friend on radio, what's left of his head is xleerly exploding. >> ideologue is the kindest thing said about rush limbaugh on my show. richard wolffe always keeps it classy. richard wolff sxechlt chryst'll ball, thank you both very much for joining us tonight. coming up, mitt romney actually tells the crowd in ohio that he knows all about hurricane cleanup because, this is absolutely true, this is what he told them, he once had to help clean up the football field after a football game when he was in high school. seriously. that's his experience with cleanup. and that's in the "rewrite." and with the election just six days away, will voters across the northeast be able to actually vote on election day? will the hurricane problem still be goi

power has already been restored but it's brutal. this is really our version of katrina. i'm not saying any two tragedies are alike but i've been touring the south shore today in my district and massapequa, lindenhurst, what you're showing is typical of many areas on long island. fema the county executives are meeting with fema to set up exact plans as to how recovery will take place. workers are coming in from all over the country to restore the power but it's a tough haul. i don't want to give anyone any false hope. everything that can be done is being done. i think over the next several days you will see more power being restored but this could go on for another ten days to two weeks. >> are there people still missing? what we saw in hoboken, new jersey, 20,000 people are still there, stuck with water beneath their apartments and their homes but there are a lot of people who chose to ride this storm out, a lot of people who weren't in areas that were supposed to be at high risk and they're still there. >> yes, for instance long beach, which is an island probably 34,000 people on the

the national feeling here. when katrina happened, i got a call the day after from haley barbour, the republican governor from mississippi, who, of course, is a friend of mine. and he said, i need guardsmen. can you send me guardsmen? pennsylvania had, you know, no nickel on that dime. we're thousands -- hundreds of miles away from the gulf, but we have 20,000 guardsmen, and i activated 2,100 and sent them down to mississippi and to louisiana, and the interesting thing, chris, is i got tons of letters citizens of those states thanking me, but i also got letters from my own guardsmen, who said it was the best thing they've done since they've been in the national guard, to help americans from another area of the country who are suffering. and that's the spirit that takes over, and it's, as you said, what makes us a special place. >> well, that's why people like you and they like haley barbour, thank you, governor rendell, and thank you, david corn. you never get to be a governor, you don't get to know what that's like. and for the latest on the devastation on the jersey shore, we turn to ron allen

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